Q: As part of your work, you attended the U.N. Climate Talks this year. Why was that important to you?
Since the beginning of learning about climate change, I’ve heard about the Paris Agreement, and I’ve watched youth activists at the U.N. Climate Talks champion the issues that matter in their communities. 2023 was my most engaged year for climate organizing on a national scale, and I wanted to be part of seeing the global coordination for how we address this challenge. I was really interested to meet people from around the world and to see how U.S. negotiators responded to another big wave of involvement and pressure from young people.
Q: When we last spoke, you mentioned you had meetings with members of the U.S. negotiating team and senators. What were those conversations like?
Along with a group of really inspiring young people, I was able to have good conversations with high-up U.S. negotiators, multiple times. They expressed a lot of enthusiasm for meeting with young people. At the same time, they seemed to underestimate our knowledge and spent a lot of time over-explaining policies to us. We caught them by surprise multiple times by responding with educated and data-backed knowledge.
I got the impression that they assumed our demands were very general. In actuality, we know which sectors are hard to abate. We know fossil fuels need to stick around, for now, for steel and cement. That’s why we need to talk about how to initiate a fast phase out in the easy-to-abate sectors, to give time for the harder-to-abate industries. Young people are not just screaming the language. We have a sophisticated understanding of how this phase out works, and I’m glad we could demonstrate that to negotiators.
Q: And, of course, there are far more people than government representatives and negotiators at these talks. Did you meet any people or groups who were particularly inspiring?
I went into COP knowing that I have such a small perspective and knowing that everyone there would have rich knowledge built on their own experience. So I went in as a sponge, and I met passionate people from all over the world with all types of knowledge—from inspiring youth activists from the Philippines and Uganda to informative nuclear engineers to scientists and climate justice organizers.
There is value in having spaces for the global community to meet, talk to each other, collaborate, figure out what our needs are. As someone from the global north, this exchange is especially important because it is our responsibility to pressure our countries to remain accountable for funding a just renewable energy transition for the global south. There is power and importance in a global conversation, and I was grateful to meet people from around the world at COP and learn about their priorities.